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sourdough starter beginner (Read 6237 times)
10/22/06 at 01:53:08
Carole Mora   Guest

 
I'm attempting my first sourdough starter and am unsure about the following instructions:

7. After 1 or 2 days the starter will have a new, fresh look. Remove any dried dough and mix with about 1 cup of flour.

Should any water be added at this stage?  I'm guessing not, but am not sure.  The starter I had after the second stage seemed just right, spongy, aromatic and risen.  But after this last step, my dough did not rise at all.  I added a little water to mix this last bit of flour with the starter because it seemed to me that although the instructions don't mention water, some was needed in order to mix the full cup of flour with the dough from the second step.  Should I have added less than a full cup of flour and skipped the water?


 
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Reply #1 - 10/28/06 at 19:42:38
Vivitor for now   Guest

 
You've probably found by now you did the right thing, i remember looking at my starter every few hours to see if it had taken, but in fact took about two or so weeks to be perfect to use, after that its almost imposible to kill it.
 
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Reply #2 - 10/28/06 at 19:43:18
Visitor for now   Guest

 
You've probably found by now you did the right thing, i remember looking at my starter every few hours to see if it had taken, but in fact took about two or so weeks to be perfect to use, after that its almost imposible to kill it.
 
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Reply #3 - 11/06/06 at 06:42:57
Carole Mora   Guest

 
Thanks for the reply regarding step #7.  My second batch appears to have turned out just right.  I added the water to the 1 cup water and mixed it well before adding it to the springy, fresh started from the previous step. I've had it in the fridge for a few days, and am now trying my first batch of dough -- so far so good.

Now, I wonder how to refresh the piece of starter I won't be using. The instructions are vague.  It says refresh using the previous steps for making starter, but I've assumed that this means that I only need to mix another cup of flour with water and mix it with the leftover portion.  I'm also assuming that I let this sit for a day or two, and then refridgerate again. 

I suppose this process involves a certain amount of trial and error, so I'll post my results with both the first attempts at making bread from the starter, and with the refreshed starter.
 
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Reply #4 - 01/20/07 at 04:01:45
RVSDJOHN   Ex Member

 
So how did it go with the sour dough bread?  And how did replenishing the starter work out. 

I am actually at the same steps you were in Nov.  I'll be making the bread this weekend.  My expereince with the starter matched the instructions .. unusally very accurate, I was surprised
 
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Reply #5 - 02/03/07 at 04:28:34
boudiniere   Ex Member

 
I tried making the starter but after a few days, the starter did not have many bubbles and did not have a sweet aroma.  However, I continued by adding the flour as directed (and some water), and eventually used the starter in the Berkeley sourdough bread recipe.  The bread dough was very sloppy, did not rise much in the refrigerator, and did not rise at room temperature.  I baked it regardless and although it was pretty flat, it actually tasted halfway decent.  Overall, I left the starter and the bread dough much longer than suggested (10 days elapsed between starting the starter and baking the bread).   I'd like to try again.  Any suggestions where I went wrong?
 
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Reply #6 - 02/03/07 at 12:35:52
Luc_H   Ex Member

 
Bonjour Boudiniere,

here is a great reference for a starter sourdough: http://www.io.com/~sjohn/sour.htm

Now remember that not every region nor house has enough yeast available in the air to colonize flour. Also flour that is highly process has few live yeast in it.

My suggestion:
Use unbleached flour: 1cup flour+1 cup water (boiled and cooled in the case of highly chlorinated tap water)
keep you starter mixture in a warm place (above the fridge )
No lids just a cheese cloth or screen.
always replenish half the mixture every 24 hours as per the instructions. (take 1/2 out and replace with 1/2 cup water +1/2 cup unbleached flour)
If after 4 or 5 days, it does not appear very active (i.e. not bubbly or foamy) add 1 or 2 (well washed) crushed grapes or 1tsp of malt extract (i.e. regular Ovaltine).  yeast love the sugars found in these 2 products that will kick start the dormant bugs in the flour.  Continue to replenish 4 more days.
If no results appear after that treatment: start again but you will have to cheat a little by adding 1/4 TSP of commercial yeast to your initial mixture.

Good luck
Luc H


 
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Reply #7 - 02/04/07 at 03:51:51
boudiniere   Ex Member

 
Hi Luc,

Thanks for your response.  I actually found the website you mention yesterday, and was going to try that starter too - alongside the current one I have.  This latter one I fed yesterday and left overnight and it has expanded unbelievably, so I'll try both starters and see how I go.

I appreciate your helpful suggestions.
 
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Reply #9 - 11/07/09 at 07:09:24
vick   Ex Member

 
I added the water to the 1 cup water and mixed it well before adding it to the springy, fresh started from the previous step.
 
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Reply #10 - 12/20/09 at 13:51:20
Arianna   Ex Member

 
I am considering starting a starter myself.  I did a bit of research on it and was amazed at a Wikipedia article that states that many bakeries have starters that have been going for years, giving each bakery a unique taste to their bread.  So fascinating!
 
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Reply #11 - 12/28/09 at 23:51:18
proofreaderjobs   Ex Member

 
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Photos showing active sourdough starter.
 
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Reply #12 - 12/30/09 at 23:08:33
yamada   Ex Member

 
The pictures are clear to show.
Thanks Roll Eyes
 
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Reply #13 - 01/20/10 at 11:49:12
Neens   Ex Member

 
This is a hard thing to make. I have ruined it for three rounds. can some one put a bit expert help here. id rather what people write here than those sites out there.
 
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Reply #14 - 03/12/10 at 18:47:59

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They say the yeast is the reason some bakeries keep same starter dough for years. This flavors it or so they say so they keep a batch going with some of original in it at all times.
 

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