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Sour Dough???!!!??? (Read 16517 times)
08/23/11 at 09:20:40
DaddyChef   Ex Member

 
Hey I used the sour dough starter recipe on the bread tab of the cooking science page. So far it has been working great and going right along with the plan. According to my dad who is a somewhat failed sourdough starter maker it looks like nothing he has ever made before.
Once I started the Berkeley Sourdough recipe It turned my starter dough into a soup. Which I know it's suppose to do however my question is more about about 8 hrs after when the water I added to the starter has started seperating from the mixture. Is that normal?  If so do I add the seperated water to bread dough mix later or should I remove it prior to the mixing?
 
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Reply #1 - 08/24/11 at 22:37:37
DaddyChef   Ex Member

 
I have been having all the same problems. I attempted some sourdough pancakes which were fantastic. However I made the bread dough the other day and baked it in the oven today. The flavor is mild but tasty and didnt rise very much. The only thing I dont think i have is enough "wild Yeast" floating about my house and neighborhood to successfully complete this recipe. I want to try to add a small pinch of yeast from a package to see if it gets better. What do you think?
 
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Reply #2 - 08/25/11 at 16:30:31

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Smiley  Good News!  So, at 8:30 am PST, my dough completed phase 2 in 24 hours properly.  So, I left about 3/4 cup of starter and added to it 1 cup of fresh flour/water dough, kneaded together and..... YES!!!  it is now 4:30 pm and it is doing what it is supposed to do.  If I allow this to go as far as 12 hours, well let's just say it worked.

It took longer than the general recipe stated, so I think my determination to not give up paid off.  Perhaps you were right to say that an area may have less or more wild yeast in the air.  In any event, persistence paid off.

I also now have a bit of starter in liquidish form for my pancakes and waffles!  It had that alcohol thing going on, but after a couple of refreshers it is now sour as well.

So, I have two starters.. one dough and one sponge.. and that should be motivation for others to hang in there and keep working that dough!

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Reply #3 - 08/28/11 at 08:55:50
DaddyChef   Ex Member

 
Very happy for you I'm glad it worked. Hopefully I will have some time to make some bread dough this week.  I added a small watered down pinch of redstar yeast to half the starter and so far so good. The good smell is still there and it has a very nice fresh looking starter dough. We'll see I post a few pics of the dough before and after the rise. Wish me luch Smiley
 
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Reply #4 - 08/28/11 at 10:40:02

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Good Luck!  LOL

Well, as much as mine looked and smelled wonderful, baked up beautifully, the bread was bitter bitter bitter.  I know what good sourdough tastes like..  this bread was terrible!  So clearly I went wrong somewhere along the line.  I threw out all of my starter.  I've ordered some San Francisco starter on line.  Is that cheating?  LOL.  I went online to see if I could figure out why my bread tasted so bitter, could'nt find an explanation.

Keep me posted!!!
 
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Reply #5 - 09/02/11 at 16:39:24
DaddyChef   Ex Member

 
Capital FAIL for me too. I finally got around to baking my bread and although my starter and dough looked and smelled good it still did not raise as much as I think it should. it also had a very extreme salt flavor. I tossed the starter and the bread. The only thing I can consistantly make is sourdough pancakes and waffles Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Sooooo Good. My Wife and I also expermented with some sourdough cupcakes the other night and only had 2 recipes that came through for us (our own). As for the bread i think im going to forget the venture all together for the summer. I think with my AC running 24-7 the hummidity is gone in my household air. Im going to boot this project back up during the winter months and see if  cant get any better at this.

Oh another question? What kind of oven do you use (gas, electric)

Cheesy
 
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Reply #6 - 09/15/11 at 08:51:42
Iamchef   Ex Member

 
I need help.  I followed the sourdough starter recipe, then went on to the Berkeley sourdough recipe. My question is I followed the steps of taking a ball of the starter diluting it and adding two cups of flour. Now,  I have this bowl of I guess a poolish but for the recipe I only need 3/4 of a cup of this stuff.  What do I do with the rest of the poolish?  I have the original starter in the fridge,   but not sure what to do with all this leftover poolish and I dont like wasting ingredients.  Can this mixture be saved along with the starter or does it need to be used up?
 
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Reply #7 - 10/27/11 at 07:33:19
Kathryn Grace   Ex Member

 
I just set my first loaf to rise in the fridge with this starter. I assume we can refrigerate the liquid starter and use later. I poured my leftover into a smaller jar, covered and refrigerated. Most starters keep up to two weeks untended in the fridge, so I'll take out 3/4 cup the night before I want to make a new loaf and feed it a tablespoon or so just to wake up the yeasty beasties, then mix the dough in the morning as usual. I'll come back and let you know how it goes.

I'll return tomorrow and report on how my first loaf turned out as well.

I'm curious what others have done with the rest of the starter dough ball--the one from which we were told to pinch a tangerine-size piece to make the liquid starter. I'm going to separate mine into more tangerine-size balls and freeze them, since we don't eat enough bread to use those up quickly. Has anyone tried that? If so, how did it turn out for you?
 
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Reply #8 - 11/13/11 at 12:42:56
The_Baker_Man   Ex Member

 
It may be best to make pancakes for breakfast. Not good to save in your other batch. 
Good luck, Wink
 
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Reply #9 - 02/20/12 at 10:03:09
GlyclecewIL   Ex Member

 
matt7215 is right.  I havent bought any sour bugs in years, just keep reusing.

Blending and/or Solera is the way to go.  I wouldnt do it any other way.
 
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Reply #10 - 04/13/12 at 23:30:10
BeenEmestGB   Ex Member

 
We are going on a trip soon and I thought I would make breads, rolls, pizza twists.  Do you think I could make the dough  and then freeze it bake later?  Make the pizza twists and freeze before baking?

I am thinking I would have to thaw and let rise before baking?
 
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Reply #11 - 04/23/12 at 22:59:07
vovareiferaIH   Ex Member

 
VB, tell me about the sour dough starter.
Ive never made sour dough bread but Ive heard about the tradition of feeding the starter or mother for years and passing it along.

Recipe sounds interesting, let us know the details and results of this sour.
 
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